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I mean, yeah. It's a group of marginalised individuals trying to make the world a better place for themselves and others within the group. It'd be interesting to hear the arguments for people who say it was never woke with that description. I do hate the word woke though, it holds no meaning anymore.

The best thing about this show is how its gotten a lot of ppl to revaluate their thoughts on Cyclops. He's the goat.

Nah xmen 97 is fantastic but wolverine and the xmen was great to. and the second season would have been sweet age of apocalypse season but marvel got nappy rash and threw the toys out of the court.

Yes Wolverine is the only one of the X-Men who matters. The show should be all about him. What a piece of trash. Thank God there are X-Men animated shows that don't put all the emphasis on Wolverine.

It's not even a new concept. We have seen this 'big things go little' A LOT (pokemon being crammed into a Gameboy pocket comes to mind). It's a low hanging fruit idea as far as 'creative' goes. It's what you do with it. I agree the issue is not the concept, it is totally the execution. It screams compressing for destruction, not for synthesis. Like seeing a gummy teddy bear being crushed by teeth in excruciating detail instead of it amusingly dissolving in acid or something. I hope this inspires people to touch grass more, if anything. Apple's pocket will not be hurt AT ALL from people not liking an ad. Realize the disconnect we live in.

You forgot Batman is a fascist? 😂 And yes, woke is bad and tiring, and the audience thinks the same!

If you didn’t like X-Men 97’s first season. You’re wrong. And that ok. Nobody’s perfect.

“I love helping kids. I love kids Charlie! I LOVE KIIIIIDS!”

You and I had a very similar thought, followed by pleasant surprise, when finally watching the show. Episode 5 is just one of the best tv episodes I have watched, not just in the realm of animation. The show transcends it's source material to write out very interesting storyline based on comic book ones. So happy to have a show like this that cares about telling a good story and not just fluffing fan service.

It was honestly genius that the initial XMen97 trailer looked so bland and boring. Expectations were set low. Then they crushed it. Season 2 is where the writers prove themselves. Can’t wait.

I know I’m going to get called a woke sjw but let’s be real: An assertive woman of colour had a fight with the male protagonist who we all empathise with. Therefore everything bad about her inevitably gets amplified 100 times over. Because let’s face it, people are really immature and stupid. Especially young men who are the primary demographic of this show. Take it from a 31 year old white guy: I know how these guys think. Especially with the “woke” moral panic that’s going on right now making everyone hyper suspicious of minorities speaking their mind in an assertive way in media. If you’re an amber hater it may offend you to read this but that doesn’t mean it’s not true. 😉 come back to me in 10 years when you’ve grown up a bit.

I mean every work out there has an influence, if you go by such an extreme criteria that literally nothing is original.

A dumb person can say its bad. Its my favorite thing ever.

As a die hard X-Men who was repeatedly let down by everything Marvel did to this team in the wake of Singer, I had high hopes the minute it was announced and this is exactly the X-Men I've been missing for decades. I remember the old show like some goofy old friend who told good stories with a lot of heart. Seeing '97 was like reuniting with that friend, finding him grown up with his immature tendencies ironed out, but in all the ways it counts, it's the same friend I remembered. Beau DeMayo is the best X-Men fan since Chris Claremont.

Nice wikipedia-research!

The show was pure 🔥🔥🔥🔥

No because being woke didnt exist until 2016 or so

I like how you do not talk about X men at all except the very beginning and the very end.

What a phenomenal season of Marvel Television! This season and finale were absolutely incredible, and it really had it all! Great writing, jaw-dropping animation, masterful music, amazing voice acting performances, brilliant pacing, respect for the original source material/90s animated series, and lots of fun/really cool Cameos and Easter Eggs for the fans to enjoy! I'm so excited/hyped for Season 2 and will be counting down the days! This finale and the whole season get a 100/10 from me!

It kinda makes me sad that something created 60 years ago as an allegory for the civil rights movement is still so poignant and reflective of our world today.

So to dumb it down for you what he’s saying is he thought it was going to be ass because it’s a re adaptation/revival but instead it was the same but not at all and was like a full blast of fent every episode because Xmen 97 was and is amazing more to come 😭

A long winded way of saying your ignorant and a follower of the lowest mindsets of the internet

I loved listenin' to x-position! And personally, like most of my future reactions I give a strong, resounding "huh!" I didn't really care for X-Men '97. But after the trailers landed, the first episode aired, I just gave it a try. Many still don't care for it since the old show did just fine. Others have had it. But time heals old wounds. Or we just move on!

An interesting thought occurred to me when you made your point about the film landscape not being improved by getting rid of adaptations. Since before even action comics issue one released, the general public has thought of comic books as "kids stuff", and has written them off entirely. But comics, especially superhero comics, have always been full of immensely moving stories. Hell, there are even people who would go so far as to suggest that comics are the American equivalent to Greek mythology, heroes like superman and batman being our Hercules and Odysseus. And until very recently, no one who didn't read comics believed that they were anything more than kids stuff. Most people thought batman was as goofy as the Adam west version until the Tim Burton film came out. And because of the almost hundred years of writting off these stories, even people who enjoy them still subconsciously seem to write them off as a passing fad. In 1991, sandman issue 19 won the world fantasy award, beating out more traditional novels and short stories, and instead of admiting that this was a new form new form of literature just coming out of its infancy, they introduced a comic book only division so they could still pretend that these stories were lesser. Even today, people have been prophesying an immenent "superhero fatigue" since the first avengers movie came out, as if these weren't good stories (not every superhero flick is good, obviously, I'm just speaking broadly) but merely a fad that will pass and then we can get back to "real cinema". And yet, everytime it seems that might just be the case, something new (at least to the general public) and amazing, just like x men 97, comes along and grabs our attention yet again, like the oddessy following the Iliad. All this to say that while we should still have unique and original films, there is nothing wrong with bringing an amazing and moving story to a whole new audience, and if there were, they wouldn't be so popular. After all, let's not pretend that the first thing Hollywood does everytime film technology advances isn't make another adaptation of robin hood.

"2 women carrying out their businessss.... yeah *bites lip* bizznessss..."

Im only a fan of the X-Men comics so I had 0 expectations. This show blew me away, it had no business being THAT GOOD. They got the spirit of Claremont’s X-Men characters exactly right.

3:35 this is exactly what the TAS did too. in 2024, they did FATAL ATTRACTION with rouge instead of colossus, in 92l they did DAYS OF FUTURE PAST with bishop instead of kitty. it lives up to TAS's legacy of adapting the comics.

cant blame him, that long ago thinking some good classic X-Men stuff would happen was scarce and grim. thank goodness that we actually got X-blessed : D

15:06 "whaaaat a waste!!!!"

The grav cannon,it compacts the life out of things!!!!

11:31 "🤪eeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeereerrrrrrrreeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee!! you destroyed 1 of the ships ?... a thing that costs 1000s of adimanitum,100s of nuclear power cores.and that runs by a plant basically makeing it go?... just to kill some stupid bugs?..."

The show was mid af. Stop the glaze

I decided to watch the entire 90s series in preparation for ‘97, and I just so happened to catch up right after the release of episode 5. Lemme tell ya, the gut punch I got from that was absolutely unparalleled. The decision to put that right after a damn MOJO EPISODE certainly had an effect too.

OR, maybe reboots deboots remakes inspired by original etc etc etc doesn't matter at all and we just want something that's good.

This video really inspired me to go watch arcane to get some tips to destroy the patriarchy because that’s what that show is all about right… right?

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I was worried about that too. I feel like xmen needed it less than Spider-Man at least and left of at a decent place, but despite that and ignoring magneto x rogue I think it was great.

this video got so meta and i loved it man, the overarching analysis of how art imitates and is constantly commenting on itself. so true! feels like this season managed to manage a meta commentary about the x-men and what they originally stood for and made it authentic while imbuing it with a new soul. it’s like art is just hats on hats on hats

Feels like this guy just took 12 minutes to say a reboot showed him he needs to reboot his ideas on how he judges media

The original take is not wrong. X-men 97 is what happens when you have creative vision and execute flawlessly and no one could have expected that.

I'm happy you're willing to admit you were wrong instead doubling down and making videos with a skewed narrative about why an adult oriented cartoon based a 30 year old ip isn't getting more viewers on Disney+ than a YA aimed show like Percy Jackson.

One thing people don’t bring up is how much more censorship there was in the 90’s. In some cases I’d be one of those fanboys but as someone who introduced to the X-men from the single episode Pryde of the X-men* *this was the one where Wolverine had an Australian accent.

I hated apple before I saw this, and seeing a trumpet destroyed like that makes me hate the company even more.

I think a lot of people need to understand a video from years ago could never be informed by what we know now and could only go off of what the norm was back then. Sure it may have been an assumption that the 97 revival would be more of the crap nostalgia bait slop dug up by companies years later to try to pander to old fans, but it would just as likely been an assumption to expect it to be as good or even better than the original. Even with tons of information, the only way someone will know how they really think of something is when it's done and shown directly to them for them to experience. And that experience will be determined by each individuals opinions on it not just a black and white "it was good/it was bad!" general reaction.

I don't mind a good yarn but this feels like waffle for the sake of it

I would go so far as to say 97 is even better than the original show, due to it lacking a lot of constraint the og had back then. But I think what audience mostly have issues with were adaptation from things they already seen before. Granted it is a somewhat murky distinction- however there are times calls for something that is fresh and bold, not necessarily the context itself but the form or medium it took.

What an insipid video

Jordan Peterson is the literal definition of a pseudo intellectual lol he talks so much without ever saying anything, he talks in circles switch the goal post from topic to topic avoiding the actual topic and then use god as a explanation to what he’s saying

That Mary Jane cameo in the last episode had me pumping my fist in the air. I wasn’t even upset that Peter saved her offscreen.

You forgot DUNE as an inspiration to Star Wars, but okay... Nice video, dude, fr. It has a really good point, and made me realize I must watch X-Men '97 as soon as possible